• balderdash@lemmy.zip
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    1 year ago

    I can try to make the material interesting and be engaging but if you’re watching Overwatch on your phone all of that is a moot point.

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    If schools only focused on what students were motivated to learn, I’m not sure schools would really be accomplishing much. Not to say that schools shouldn’t foster motivation in students. Just that technology, especially social media, is very effective at distracting people.

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    1 year ago

    I mean it kind of needs to be both. But it’s hard to find a compelling reason why kids need their smartphones fully accessible during class.

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      Well, by their teenage years, why not all the reasons adults need smartphones fully accessible? Looking up information from authoritative sources? Emergency contact? Coordinating schedules for office hours?

      Schools often simultaneously demand more from children than workplaces do adults, and give them less opportunity to excel.

      I’m not saying work-inappropriate phone use should be accepted, but taking them away entirely is downright irresponsible. Just like schools who still demand students write on a notebook instead of using a laptop. Raise your hand if you had RSI-related issues for a decade or more after high school? We old people tend to forget how bad school used to be (and can be) for physical and mental health AND for learning.

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      Schools should just be one huge faraday cage. Kids have to learn to focus and pay attention.

      And they need to learn the curriculum

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        I mean I’m not that extreme lmao that’s also a safety issue. Kids will be kids, they will not sit quietly all school day and be total lesson sponges lol

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          How much of a safety issue would it really be? Cell phones didn’t really become a thing for my age range until high school. If there was an emergency, there was a landline in the classrooms.

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            I don’t think y’all realize that not a single staff member or administrator or any employee of the school would be able to use a phone either (other than landlines I guess?). Schools aren’t just full of students lol

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              other than landlines I guess?

              You mean that thing I specifically mentioned? Yes, I realize that. Would it be inconvenient? Yes, it absolutely would. Would it suck to work in that environment? Again, yes it would. If I’m just thinking about safety, I’m not sure it’s that much more unsafe.

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                  It’s incredibly unsafe when you live in a society built around smartphones/tablets for health and safety tools to remove said smartphones.

                  But is it? Landlines can make the same emergency calls. A Faraday cage also doesn’t mean you can’t have an internal wifi that reaches outside that the staff can connect to, or even the students can connect through with a proxy controlling their connection.

                  I agree it’s impractical. But it doesn’t mean laptops and phones suddenly don’t work. They can still work within the cage and you can poke holes through it with a landline and a proxy to control traffic in and out.

                  Ultimately, it’s definitely not worth the engineering and the effort. I just don’t think that safety is the reason it is impractical.

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            Right? Somehow schools survived until at least the 2010s without every kid having a cellphone in them at all times.

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            I mean, I’m doing quite well having gone though school without smart devices and 100% would have never gotten straight As if I had one when I was a kid. And I’m every type of ADHD you can be diagnosed as…

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    1 year ago

    OP take a look back at this in about 5-10 years and realize how monumentally ignorant it is.