• groucho@lemmy.sdf.org
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    2 months ago

    This is the hardest thing to un-train with new employees: be honest about your mistakes. I will not get mad about a mistake. Everyone makes them. The best thing to do is call it out so we can move to fix it. If you keep making the same mistake, maybe we have a talk about your process to see if there are any blind spots.

    So many people try to hide their mistakes or reframe them as successes and please do not do that. Own it, see if you can learn anything from it, and let everyone know so we can help you fix it.

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      2 months ago

      You get them after parents have already had their way with them, so yeah it’s difficult for them to unlearn a lifetime’s worth of instruction, to now do the correct thing.

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        2 months ago

        Not even just parents, sometimes school and the early shitty jobs do a lot of damage too

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          Sigh… yeah. When all, or at least most, of society combines together to say the same exact thing, then little kids in particular tend not to question it. Fortunately some of us continue to learn even later in life.:-) Unfortunately not all of us do.:-( Even so, it’s worth the effort to try to share the right way to go. Lately I’ve been thinking about that poem by Rudyard Kipling, “If—”: “If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs…”:-)

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    I don’t get angry when people make mistakes.

    I get angry when people make the same mistake every time despite being told/shown how to do it properly.

    At that point is either blatant incompetence or it’s on purpose.

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    I’ve heard that for people to be teachable they have to feel safe. Feeling afraid makes your body enter a defensive stance and this includes not only resisting harm but also resisting knowledge transfer. I assume that’s why people who struggle with a subject at school sometimes have a difficult time catching up even when with tutoring.

    It would then be similar to how you can’t convince a stranger who believes in wrong things - controversial topics cause stressful situations and when you’re seen as an enemy their brain goes into a defensive mode, distrusting you and not letting new information in. You first have to build up a certain level of trust and mutual understanding.

    Maybe that’s nothing new. Either way, this picture reminded me of that.

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      Idk, any more, my one kid(15) is too often telling me stuff he and others did wrong together that his mother and I have to stop him mid-sentence to ask “in what world would we want you to tell us about this unless you or others got hurt or need an alibi? Why would you tell us this in front of your little sister?”

      We should have been so much harsher with his earlier mistakes, like our parents were with us, I tell you.

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          No. He and his (not much)older siblings are at an age where, like I said, we need to know if someone got hurt, got in trouble with the law, or broke something, but short of that, a blow-by blow of recent or not-so-recent shenanigans in front of a much younger sibling is doing no one any favors.

          I should be glad he’s not tagging walls, or at least knows I would make him find any property owner and offer to re-paint or pay for such. Its the worst combination of he used to genuinely do and get in trouble for awful things, a lot, and now he’s like that one kid in the class who never does anything wrong beyond steal an extra french fry or ketchup packet, and won’t shut up about their condiment exploits(also still gets in fights and such, but doesn’t talk about that). When you have pregnant classmates, classmates in rehab, and/or pregnant classmates in rehab, everyone gets tired of this shit, not just parents.