What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do? And does it value its voters enough to shift away from an approach to the onslaught in Gaza that a majority of Democratic voters are against?

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    it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do?

    If you fear him, why would you not assist in preventing his rise?

    If you give a shit about Palestine, why would you not support the better candidate for them? You think Trump will do anything to make this situation better?

    The logical fallacy at play here is so glaring I can’t believe these journalists are willing to put their name to it.

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    I’m just tryna vote for the lesser, by far, of two evils. It’s a fucking binary system, you can stomp your feet all you want and still get a genocide and possibly much worse, or you can at least preserve hope for a better future.

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      Lesser of two evils works when we’re talking about blocking universal healthcare or police reform. When you use that bullshit to justify pulling the lever for genocide, you just don’t care that much about genocide.

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        You’re standing in a room with two levers. If you pull the left one, five people die. If you pull the right one, ten people die. If you don’t pull one, it’s random, either five or ten people die.

        So if you choose not to pull, and ten people die, would you feel guilty for the five additional people? You could have prevented their deaths.

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        And when you use that justification to enable someone who’s going to increase support of that genocide what does that make you? Sure sounds like you’re supporting more genocide than a Biden voter is.

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      It’s reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally simple:

      Voting Biden in gives us time to take all this energy we’re mustering up and using it to promote broader, more significant changes. We don’t stop at the election and instead use the next four years to push toward a better tomorrow.

      Too many people are stopping at Trump v. Biden. Too many more are stopping at Them v “The System”.

      Change takes time. When you vote for Biden, you vote to reset the clock, and then it’s time for all of us to get to work.

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        Can you explain how you expect to push for a better tomorrow after Biden is re-elected?

        The reason I am reluctant to vote for Biden is that he is supporting genocide. If Biden continues to give away large quantities of child-exploding bombs, and he is still rewarded with reelection, then what leverage will the anti-genocide movement have left?

        It seems like if Biden can ignore the anti-genocide movement and still win, then we can expect Biden to keep ignoring for 4 more years.

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            I expect Trump to do horrible things. I expect Trump to be worse than Biden.

            What does that have to do with my questions?

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              Because that is literally the entire campaign for the DNC: “but what about Trump!”.

              They love Trump because he’s the ultimate boogeyman to strong-arm voters to fall into line.