• expatriado@lemmy.world
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      yes, killing the host is considered a jerk move in the microbial community, but some still take the suicidal path, it’s a bacterial insanity issue

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          “I didn’t kill you. I put an ax in your ribcage so that the bloodloss would kill you”

          /s, but only kinda. Whether HIV kills directly or indirectly, at the end of the day the host is still dead and poor HIV has nowhere to live 🥺

        • beejboytyson@lemmy.world
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          No but it does mutate at a lighting rate. That’s why we can cure it. Something about protein strands constantly evolving.

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      Airborne respiratory viruses in humans tend to decrease in lethality. This doesn’t really transfer anywhere else. The decrease in severity in is due to selection pressure from human quarantine behavior.

      Killing the host is normal in single celled organisms. The most common method viruses leave the cell I by causing it to burst open.

      Killing the host is also common in the plant world.

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      Cancer is a prime example of op message

      Also viruses started somewhere. A lot had to mutate to get them to be so deadly to begin with for deadly ones.

      • confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world
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        Uh… Cancer is not an organism with its own genes. Cancer is you baby, you’re just just getting out of control. Viruses sometimes start deadly but they almost always get less deadly over time.

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          Not true. As the other commenter noted, bacteriophages (which are viruses) are released from the infected bacterium through the lysis of the bacterium in question. The death of the “host” is literally essential to their multiplication.

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            I stand corrected. Let me adjust my comment. Most viruses, the vast majority, are not deadly to humans. Those that are tend to mutate to become less deadly to humans over time.

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    Isn’t the bacteriophage, kind of a good guy virus ? Or is there other viruses with this distinctive shape ?

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      As far as I know it’s kind of a good guy virus but I think it’s very specialised on what kind of bacteria it kills so maybe there is a variant that kills all the good bacteria in us. And that can’t be too good, I imagine.

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    Whatever doesn’t kill you will eventually kill you (when your immune system fails)

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    I’m missing something here, because I keep seeing posts like this one that have no content. No images, no videos, not a text post, it’s just the title “What doesn’t kill ya” with no explanation.

    I see all other posts elsewhere fine, it seems to just be posts in this one community, or from this one user maybe? I’m not sure.

    I’m on Boost if that makes any difference…

    • NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world
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      The image just loaded very slowly for me (i.e. after about 10 seconds). In some posts it never loads at all, but there is a thumbnail in the main screen. This is on sync.

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      Maybe try a different instance? Whether you see an image mostly depends on whether your instance has cached the picture

      This community is worse than most at providing alt text

      The image is a needlework project in an circular frame. Representations of bacteria and viruses decorate the center of the piece with text above reading “whatever doesn’t kill you” and text below “mutates and tries again”

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    Killing the host is typically a pretty bad long term evolutionary strategy for something that requires a host though. Better to keep the host alive so it can proliferate you