• WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Unpopular opinion: if you require disenfranchised voters to stave off a fascist dictatorship then you’re already a failed state and are only kicking the can down the road.

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      4 months ago

      There are probably a lot of people you love who require healthcare who are depending on that can being kicked further down the road until you have an alternative.

      I personally think we can support Palestine without throwing our trans and gay populations, our immigrants, and our leftists to the wolves.

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        4 months ago

        That’s the thing. We aren’t getting an alternative. We’re getting fascism. Whether we slowly slide into it with the Democrats or speed run it with the Republicans we will have to deal with the issue.

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            No. This isn’t what we have, this is what the wealthy elite have. We’re not making do, we’re drowning. We’ve been drowning. But everyone ignored the warnings so here we are.

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              humans have been making do with much less than what you have for hundreds of thousands of years. making do also does not necessarily exclude political action

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                That’s right up there with, “better clean that plate, there’s starving kids in China!”

                It’s that very history you mention that tells me it’s time to stop supporting weak Democrats. Either we get someone strong enough to pull us back from the abyss or we’re already fucked. This story has played out time and again from the Roman Empire to Post Colonial Africa. The compromise guy is put in charge and the authoritarian runs him over.

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    4 months ago

    Here’s a take… it would be infinitely worse under the GOP. At least Biden and Blinken have attempted to cool tensions and persuade Bibi to stop. They have, at a minimum, delayed some violence.

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      That anyone would use Trump’s non-theoretical fascism to goad a vote for Biden is offensive. These are the stakes and Biden still won’t listen. That’s on him.

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      Maga assholes are having a grand time twisting the knife in this wound trying to drive a wedge in the voting block. It’s clearly working.

      The people who are drawing the line at genocide in Gaza are being disingenuous at best. Foreign policy is, believe it or not, far more complicated than people make it out to seem. Making every effort to de-escalate the conflict at the negotiating table comes before burning bridges with arguably our last and only stalwart ally in the middle east.

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          There were agreements already in place, and not sending at least some of those weapons was not an option.

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            That’s just pure bullshit. Under the Leahy amendment they’re not even allowed to send weapons to countries credibly accused of human rights abuses, and the state department’s just sitting on those reports instead of following the law.

            You could literally impeach the President over this, but obviously the majority of Congress is ok with the president breaking that law.

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              You could literally impeach the President over this

              You’re telling me that the Republicans who have been grasping at straws for four years to come up with an excuse to impeach Biden are letting this impeachable offense pass them by? Sorry, but I don’t believe you.

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                Republicans are overwhelmingly Zionists who would never criticize a Democrat for supporting Israel. If anything, they would impeach Biden for not sending Israel enough bombs and guns to use to murder innocent Gazans

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                  Gee, sounds like we should really do everything we can do keep these Republicans out of office then.