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    Seems like such a contradicting message from a school that is supposed to encourage independent thinking.

    Edit: colleges with large endowment funds seem like glorified businesses with conflicts of interest.

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      “any institution with an endowment as large as Harvard’s isn’t a school, it’s a hedge fund that offers classes, and should lose it’s tax exempt status”… Sorry I forget who said it, and I’m paraphrasing

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        Any college that refers to their graduates as “a [college name] man” clearly expects a large degree of conformity.

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        Suppressing what was clearly a peaceful protest. Almost all these colleges have used the police and violence to escalate things and then blame the students for their inability to take criticism.

        Edit: I think I misread your comment, I agree maybe they don’t encourage it, but should if they want to be considered a college.

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    They’re denying the degrees ENTIRELY or simply not granting them at commencement?

    Because after 4 years and who knows how many thousands of dollars, there’s likely a contractual obligation to supply the degree.

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      CAMBRIDGE - Thirteen Harvard University students who participated in the pro-Palestinian protest encampment on campus will not get their degrees at commencement Thursday.

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    I haven’t been able to find any explanation from Harvard about who the specific students were, or why they were singled out for punishment. Does anybody know? Were they the leaders of the protest? Were they accused of specific acts that were considered more serious than what other students did? I saw one article that said two of them are Rhodes Scholars, but I can’t find much more information.

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      Your comment history is disgusting and you should be ashamed of supporting an ethnostate, you genocidal freak.

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    It’s not about participation, but rather the socially unacceptable ways to express it. Come on, please be decent, others are here too.

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      So why was it socially unacceptable this time, but not when students were protesting South African Apartheid? Or Climate change? Or any number of the other divestments that have been successful without us even ever hearing about it?

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        “Because the Palestinians aren’t worth saving” - what other message are we to take away from this decision by Harvard?

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      the socially unacceptable ways to express it

      What does that even mean?

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      You may well ask: “Why direct action? Why sit ins, marches and so forth? Isn’t negotiation a better path?” You are quite right in calling for negotiation. Indeed, this is the very purpose of direct action. Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored. My citing the creation of tension as part of the work of the nonviolent resister may sound rather shocking. But I must confess that I am not afraid of the word “tension.” I have earnestly opposed violent tension, but there is a type of constructive, nonviolent tension which is necessary for growth. Just as Socrates felt that it was necessary to create a tension in the mind so that individuals could rise from the bondage of myths and half truths to the unfettered realm of creative analysis and objective appraisal, so must we see the need for nonviolent gadflies to create the kind of tension in society that will help men rise from the dark depths of prejudice and racism to the majestic heights of understanding and brotherhood.

      I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

      -two excerpts from MLK Jr’s letter from Birmingham jail.

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      I am the high king of Skyrim, you have questioned my decency by making such a statement, woe unto you.

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      No Americans, you mean. I’m sure the Palestinians might occasionally have a thought about it

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        does not matter this has nothing to do with the Palestinians themself.

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          Americans protesting absolutely has an impact on the Palestinians themselves. They see us, and they know we see them and what’s happening to them. There are tons of interviews with Palestinians saying how much they appreciate the solidarity, even if it hasn’t ended the war. A tiny drop of empathy can be incredibly powerful when bombs are falling all around you.

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            dude this is an article about Harvard university. people will not get degrees for something that will be forgotten in a year.