Do any of them know what the word “liberal” actually means?

  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Lmao check out all the salty libs seeing themselves get called out in these comments.

    • sincerely, an anarcho-syndicalist
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      2 months ago

      Pretty much. “Lol why don’t you like libs?”

      …cause we don’t like things the way they are, and the only goal of the libs appears to be prevent any sort of progress. Maybe we are allowed relief from existing problems, but fuck you if you wanna fix em!

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        2 months ago

        the only goal of the libs appears to be prevent any sort of progress.

        “Liberal” in America is literally synonymous with “progressive”. The entire point of the party is progress.

        @[email protected] here’s another one

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          “Liberal” in America is literally synonymous with “progressive”. The entire point of the party is progress.

          What are you even talking about? There are numerous Democrat politicians who don’t label themselves as progressive.

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            2 months ago

            I didn’t say “Democrat” at all in my comment.

            All progressives are Democrats, not all Democrats are progressives. The Democratic party is a coalition.

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                Yeah. Bernie Sanders himself is not a Democrat, but most of his supporters are Democrats who are socialist, not liberal.

                Then you’ve got your Joe Manchin types, who basically agree with Republicans but don’t like the racism etc. Blue Dogs.

                Then you’ve got the split between “progressives” and “centrists”. Biden being more of a centrist, AOC being more of a progressive. “Liberal” means different things to different people, but most Democrats would say progressives are liberals while centrists aren’t.

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    “Authoritarian” would require that we, you know, have some authority. Which we don’t.

    Neolibs do. And they just used it to arrest a bunch of students and people protesting against a genocide.

    You all project so fucking hard it’s ridiculous.

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      “Authoritarian” would require that we, you know, have some authority.

      No, it would require you to support the idea that there should be some central authority telling people what they should be doing. Which you do.

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        Lol okay bud. Then tell me how you justify 44 Democrat senators, 36 Republican senators and Joe Biden working together to block the rail strike? I can’t wait to observe your abilities as a mental contortionist.

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      It has 2 common definitions:

      1. Neo-liberal: a political approach that favors free-market capitalism, deregulation, and reduction in government spending
      2. Leftism in general.

      You’re almost never going to hear the right-wing use #1. Authoritarian communists will use #1 as a catch-all for modern capitalism.

      • lugal@sopuli.xyz
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        The US is such a right wing country that liberals are the mainstream left. In Europe, liberals are centrists and they aren’t further to the right than American libs.

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          2 months ago

          The meme says “American Republicans” so I thought we were considering this from an American pov. Definitions are going to change going to other countries and doubly so when talking about politics.

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            2 months ago

            But the definition doesn’t really change. Take universal healthcare. A liberal idea that’s considered common sense in Europe and left wing in the US. Obamacare would be something you expect from a center right European and a left American. Both are called liberal.

            And if the meme was from an exclusively American pov, it wouldn’t specify “American Republicans”

      • Don’t know why you’re being downvoted.

        Liberal literally means free. As in “If it doesn’t harm me, you’re allowed to do it”. So yes, openminded, permissive, tolerant.

        Don’t know why a lot of the US-Americans had to twist the meaning of it.

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          Because in politics, liberal means something else entirely. It’s an ideology defined by support for capitalism.

            • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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              It’s actually specifically not true in American politics.

              Liberal in America = left wing, favors greater regulation of markets