Or OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Huge respect for not putting Ubuntu
70% of the market. Half of those computers can’t even run windows 11. Good to see Microsoft taking charge in the fight against the environment by asking tens of millions of people to throw away their perfectly good computers and buy new ones
I can’t wait for some new bargain Linux machines.
For real. I’m genuinely trying to grasp why. Is it seriously just so they can require secure boot and then say Windows 11 is secure from ransomware even though that’s a feature of the motherboard and not the OS?
They have added so much ad stuff and other garbage that the OS is slowing down, to combat the user perception that the OS is slow they have increased the hardware requirement.
The home-user PC market has been hit HARD by smartphones and tablets. Suburban families no longer have a desktop in a home office plus a laptop for each member of the family. They may have a laptop, and it’s probably a Mac.
This decision is too make people buy new devices or upgrade to an OS that has a lot more tracking built in.
Microsoft is pressing AI and other data-scraping tech hard, but they’re necessarily going to have to have enterprise and government licenses that allow admins to block those features for legal and security reasons.
So they desperately need new home users they can data-mine.
I see I sideload of Gentleman Agreement with the hardware vendors here:
- Hardware Vendors : “Oh No, The Market is Slowing Down!”
- Microsoft: “Hold My Beer, it’s Payback Time”
Everyone wins. Well, the usual suspects win as usual. The environment and the customer can go kiss Mr Gates and Mr Dell’s asses.
Windows 10 can’t take screenshots at will…
That they will admit, at least.
is this real? windows 10 literally came out yesterday
Remember when W10 was going to be the last windows you’d ever need.
Yes, it’s the last version of Windows I’ll ever need.
Yep, not moving on. I still have a lot of things to figure out though. Unfortunately windows is easier for a lot of things but I’m completely done.
Oh, I meant I’m going to use a different OS after 10.
This is linuxmemes after all…
To be fair, that is entirely accurate. It is the last windows I will ever need because I switched to linux.
I like how they end support for OS without providing an upgrade for a lot of people. Might as well put a Linux ad in their “Your PC is not supported” bullshit.
They even have a guide on how to install Linux: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/linux/install
So…
Windows 10: the “last” windows version
Release Windows 11, requires specific hardware that you can’t realistically add to your existing PC. But Windows 10 will keep being updated
Windows 10 is not getting anymore updates
Love it, no notes.
To be fair, my understanding is the “10 is the last version” idea came from a developer speaking in an unofficial capacity and the media ran with it. It may have never been true.
While that is technically true, Microsoft didn’t really make any effort to correct the misunderstanding, despite it being a widely reported story in tech.
I suspect they had a legitimate faction that was going to say “rolling release” and so they let it go.
shoving down mandatory AI down everyone’s throats I see? Probably part of a behind the scenes push by government or sth since they will be tracking and recording everything going forwards. I can even see people crying “But think of the AI!”
All these gaming anti-cheats better become Linux compatible cause I’m definitely not upgrading to 11
Anti cheat is about the only thing that doesn’t work but I see that as a bonus. Anti cheat is more like a virus than it ever has been with the rootkit thing.
Linux mint cinnamon but cool cool
Let’s be honest, real nerds use Gentoo
a good starter distro but ideally you should make your own from scratch so you know what’s in it
Honestly you’re not a real one until you’ve written your own kernel entirely
You guys would have deployed your own internet protocol if this conversation continued
Writing your own internet protocol is a good idea but you shouldn’t stop there. You need to run your own internet cables too to make sure it does what you want and isn’t controlled by someone else.
And develop your own plastic to cover the cables?
And what are you going to cover with it if you haven’t even started mining your copper and inventing a machine to make your fiber optics.
Wait, maybe we need to start with the electromagnetic spectrum in general.
Oh my god😭
(I wish I was that advanced, maybe some day.)
But what’s an ᗋR𝖢ꔠ?
You just summoned a demon
No I think it’s a daemon they summoned. Maybe the notification daemon?
Btw
Intel ARC grapHics cards?
*mint
Is this for real? They’re already quitting support for win10? Ain’t no fucking way I’m going to win11 so Linux it is I guess.
Bro linux is SO FUCKING GOOD nowadays, you’re going to love it. Debian, Arch, whatever its all gravy
What would be The Linux that works for most windows games and majority of enterprise corporate software? Or a linux version that can get older warez windows software to work, like Photoshop CS 6 and the like?
popOS just because they have an installer that includes nvidia drivers out of the box.
Installing pop os on my desktop failed.
How ? I did manage to accidentally lock myself out of my main Nvme drive the first time because I chose the encryption option and fucked up the password because of keyboard layout shenanigans, so I reinstalled it without encryption because I’m the only person with access to this PC anyway, but everything else went smooth as butter.
I don’t remember the error, but it was the Nvidia edition on my old 2016 bought desktop. I restarted the install 3 times, and it failed at the same point.
I still don’t have an OS on it at the moment, because the error was after formatting.
Was it some vendor’s prebuilt PC maybe ? Those can have some weird parts that can be hard to get to work properly on Linux.
It wasn’t potentially and I ran several Linux distributions on it over the years, including Manjaro and mint.
Windows 10 LTSC 2021 edition has support until January 13th 2032.
I’d obviously prefer if more people gave Linux a try but if you’re literally forced to use Windows then it’s probably your best option right now.
If my Nvidia graphics card played nicely, I would.
It’s my #1 complaint with Linux… Well Nvidia.
Not sure what you have, what your trying to do, and am pretty new to Linux myself, but I’m running KDE neon with a 3070, and after a little work to get drivers updated I’ve had minimal issues!
I’m not doing anything too crazy though, mostly web browsing and gaming is all.
Which card do you possess?
Rtx 3080 12gb vram
🤔that should work with wayland…
Well now you have me wanting to try it again.
The main issue I’ve been having is getting two monitors to work.
Install Linux, one monitor works. Let’s try changing the driver, permanent black screen.
Reinstall Linux, well maybe I can make one monitor work. Nope. Let’s try and change the driver using the terminal. Oh black screen again.
Ok I’ll only use Linux for coding on one monitor, Windows update somehow lost the boot loader for Linux. I’m not good on grub so I just removed Linux afterwards.
I have another older computer, still Nvidia. Let’s do a clean install. No windows, just Linux. Configure proton on steam, hmm it doesn’t launch games. It just says starting then nothing. No errors. Let’s try different compatibilities, still no errors.
What I experienced is, Linux doesn’t tell you what You’re doing wrong, it just doesn’t work. Which isn’t going to work for the majority of computer users.
If something is having an issue, I want to know why, which unfortunately and fortunately Windows does a good job on.
I found the best working linux for me is endeavorOS, which istalls Arch and package manager yay If you want to install anything just write yay „anything“ and choose what to install from the list (google „aur „answer to anything“ „ to check which answer is the app you want) For installing proprietary NVIDIA drivers, there is a tool preinstalled (have to google the name) if you really want.
I’ll try endeavor next time.
If I can get overwatch and steam games to work, I would leave Windows in a heart beat. But I’m also at the point in my life where I can’t spend hours troubleshooting.
Progress in that regard is actually pretty rampant lately, I can imagine by the time Windows 10 is EOL it will be no different from AMD.
*for 20-series and later graphics cards
Well, it will be slightly different. AMD releases open source drivers. That’s why it works so much better. Nvidia releases proprietary ones and let’s the community handle the open source ones. To the end user, there probably won’t be much difference eventually, but it does hurt progress so they’ll always be slightly behind where they could be.
I’m to dumb for ARCH, and I find default Fedora and Ubuntu very annoying (although I haven’t tried them in a while). I did have a good experience with mint several years ago. What distros should I consider?
Mint has became Linux 7 IMO. It just works.
Mint is still basically mint from several years ago. Having tried a dizzying array of them it continues to be easy and hated on because it doesn’t involve text based configing your life away. That said, because it lags behind compared to other distros in updating the kernel, the thing that makes new hardware work, it can have a hard time with things made recently. Try the edge ISO, which has a newer kernel. The team is working on more frequent updates, Wayland (a thing you ideally never have to ever know what it is), and just delivers a comfortable desktop experience since I first screwed up my computers with Linux in 2007.
Is LMDE easy tok? Snaps scare me. (I have Nvidia 30xx btw.)
The Ubuntu version is still probably the best. You won’t have to think about graphics drivers or printers. It all sort of just… Works. They rip the awful out of Ubuntu and keep the excellent, world class, support in place. You’d be hard pressed for find a better commercial and non-commercial support. You can easily search for any problems you do run into and there will not be some esoteric DISCORD as your support. There are countless forms with literally thousands of people probably somewhat knowledgeable on how to address issues. Things like CUDA and dev work are also extremely supported. My barometer is how much time I have to crap away to get a printer and scanner work. Both of which just work with Linux Mint out of the box.
Linux Mint, Pop!_OS and ZorinOS are pretty nice for new users. If you want to get a little more advanced, maybe check out something like Fedora Atomic (e.g. Kinoite, Silverblue) or Universal Blue (Bazzite, Aurora, Bluefin). Arch isn’t actually that hard, they have an installation script that makes everything super easy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YE1LlTxfMQ), or you could watch a video on how to install it manually (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JYIAaLrwcY, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC7NMbl4goo)