• deaf_fish@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Just to be clear if you had a magic button that would result in guaranteed gradual reform if you pressed it. And not pressing it would result in collapse.

        You would press the button, right?

          • deaf_fish@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            2 months ago

            How do you feel about democracies? Like say it post collapse and revolution. You ended up on top. Would you create a democracy?

            • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              2 months ago

              This may come as an absolute shock, but this is a post gleefully celebrating the idea of the downfall of a genocidal regime

              If you want to discuss anarchist theory, there are much better forums for that than 196. Too many libs here.

      • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        Liberals themselves have told me:

        1. We are a “first past the post” electoral system. That alone should disillusion you of hope for any change through voting.

        2. Biden is “the most progressive president we’ve ever had.” This is probably sadly true, which again shows that anyone who cares about marginalized groups should hope for the collapse of such an outrageously atrocious system.

        Collapse is best. We should work towards collapse.

        Edit: Autocorrect sucks donkey ass

        • polonius-rex@kbin.run
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          i don’t think the left wing is best positioned to take power if there was a collapse

          i think a collapse would bring the us significantly more right wing

          • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            2 months ago

            Yeah we’re a nation of shit people overall. All the more reason collapse is best overall. I’m willing to suffer and die if it means Palestinians and immigrants can be spared

            • polonius-rex@kbin.run
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              2 months ago

              but if the right wing took power of america’s arsenal i think more Palestinians and immigrants would die

              • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                2 months ago

                Let’s give the land back to the Native Americans then! Surely they can’t do worse than our inherently corrupt, atrocious system, right?

                Certainly if we are “first past the post” and our biggest hope for change and “most progressive” president is a bigoted genocidaire, we’re better with them in charge, agreed?

                • polonius-rex@kbin.run
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  2 months ago

                  certainly sir right you are

                  but, just one more thing

                  i don’t think a group of people that the state has spent centuries stamping out are in a position to successfully hold together a country as wide-spread and diverse as the united states, so i feel like just handing it over with no other intervention is as good as a free for all, and i think that just leads to a right wing takeover

                  • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    2 months ago

                    Yikes, so you oppose returning the land to Native groups for the sake of holding together a nation that is objectively more racist and genocidal than Nazi Germany. Yikes.

                    Edit: The comment below me is describing how we treated enslaved people and Native Americans fyi