• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    This is harmful misinformation that can literally lead to people dying from tobacco related disease.

    Vaping, while definitely not healthy, is NOWHERE NEAR as unhealthy as smoking tobacco is. Especially when you do it as intended: temporarily for smoking cessation like I added decades to my life by doing.

    I smoked for 18 years, the last 10 of which I tried every other smoking cessation method including prescription medicine and substance abuse therapy. They just didn’t work for me.

    Vaping did, though. In roughly 6 months I went from smoking a pack or two a day (depending on stress levels and alcohol intake) to neither smoking nor vaping at all and I haven’t for over 3 years.

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      I think the main problem is that the companies selling vapes and related products are not really targeting users who are quitting smoking. Obviously there is less money in temporary users. They are targeting people who will keep smoking, usually because it is “cool” and especially teenagers who are a good target for “cool” and can be customers for a long time.

      So yes, if you are using it temporarily ease off nicotine it is great and we should keep vapes available for these people as medical devices. However we should try to reduce the damage that vapes are doing to other people. How strongly we should do this is obviously controversial. Personally I would focus on education and personal choice, but there is a strong argument to be more forceful.

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    Don’t vape, but if you’re going to pick up an addictive habit pick up vaping instead of cigarettes/drinking/gacha games. Much less hazardous to your health.

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    I mean I switched to vaping a few years back. Still getting a smokers cough and breathing has barely improved. I should quit completely. Vaping has made it slightly easier, though. But in all honesty, screw the health effects of either I’m just glad I don’t reek of cigarettes anymore. I didn’t realize how absolutely awful my clothes smelt until I switched.

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      When I first hugged my little brother after I switched to vaping he said, “you don’t smell like cigarettes” and my heart just broke. I can’t ever go back, even if vaping isn’t really helping me quit nicotine, it’s still saving them from being around the smell like I was when I was a little kid, and I hated that damn smell. Should’ve never started, but it’s easier said than done.

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    A lot of comments here are saying that vaping is apprently healthier than smoking. But we don’t actually know that. All independent studies I know of say that we can’t tell the long term consequences to vaping lungs yet.

    Everyone that says that vaping is healthier than smoking is just parotting the companies that sell vapes.

    Edit: Some videos about that topic:

    https://youtu.be/XuTQbOo3Y30

    https://youtu.be/bbV6I8VRMG8

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            Thank you, it was a simple ask, but you still haven’t provided a source on the 95%. I understand that vaping is less harmful than cigarettes, but you put up the 95%, I shouldn’t have to look up your claim.

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              you put up the 95%

              No, I’m not the person you responded to.

              But “I shouldn’t have to look up your claim” is really letting yourself down. Be better. You weren’t forced to look something up, you were elucidated to the fact that it was an oft-cited, elementary component of the vaping discussion, and that if you were ignorant to the concept, it was but a google search away.

              Instead of educating yourself, you did the thing petulant internet trolls do and told us you felt entitled to spoon-fed basics. I don’t think you are trolling, so do yourself a favor next time and take responsibility for your ignorance, and pleasure in finding out new things for yourself. Then you won’t have to feel called out for being too lazy to learn, just too lazy to look at usernames.

              https://www.gov.uk/government/news/e-cigarettes-around-95-less-harmful-than-tobacco-estimates-landmark-review