One thing I don’t like over here on Lemmy is that when a mod action happens against you you don’t get a notification of any kind. So unless you check the mod logs you’ll typically never know something happened.
NGL I’m half tempted to make a bot that crawls the mod logs to tell people when something happens to their posts or comments.
Presumably it’d interfere with .ml etc censoring dissenting (i.e. sane) opinions, which is why it’s not happening. Same as how instance blocking was like pulling teeth
On the sidebar of every community in lemmy-ui is a link to the modlog. For example, here’s a screenshot of this community’s sidebar:
Unfortunately on Jerboa I couldn’t find any way to get to the modlog. Don’t know about other apps.
You can also navigate to /modlog on your instance. e.g. https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog. Unfortunately it’s not very easy to use, and it’s not always clear. For example, when I loaded the page, one entry I saw said “mod Banned @[email protected]”. Which mod? Why, what did they do? Where have they been banned from?
Another entry when I look at the modlog from my instance says “mod Banned [email protected] from the community [email protected] reason: advocating assassination expires: 4 days ago”. Mostly great, I know who was banned and from where and why. I still don’t know who did it, but whatever. The only catch? The ban was issued 2 hours ago. Issued 2 hours ago but expired 4 days ago? Huh?
I’m glad it exists, but I rarely look at it. It’s just not practical to use most of the time.
Unfortunately I’ve yet to find an app that makes getting to the modlog easy so the only option I’ve found is to open my phone’s web browser and check it that way.
At least Lemmy works better on mobile than a lot of other sites
I’m only on ShitJustWorks because I thought Lemmy.World straight-up deleted my account.
For repeatedly explaining to someone that I was arguing for copyright reform… while they just slapped the table and parroted the status quo. As if ‘but! copyright! exists!’ was both news and a counterargument. That sort of trolling horseshit is what moderation’s supposed to be for. Not waiting for someone to say a no-no word. Or to heave a sigh and say, go ahead, make good on your adorable threat to report me, I’ve done nothing but humor you with more effort than your comments deserve.
But every moderator dense enough to demand “civility” never reads anything besides the comment that gets reported. And none of them have any god-damn idea what trolling looks like, so good luck getting your own reports acknowledged. On reddit I could imagine a conscious effort to ratchet discussions toward right-wing nonsense. But here? No. Here it’s just ignorance of what makes discussions worth having.
If people can lie and misrepresent and spin and lie, without any fucking consequences, but ‘I think this user is being dishonest’ is an intolerable personal attack, you run a community for those liars.
I’ve literally had some of my comments (on this account and others) removed while other people agreeing with me don’t have theirs removed.
Or moderators banning people for stuff that’s not even against their rules but they just put it as the reason anyways.
Not to mention the amount of misinformation that flies around that goes completely unchecked.
I’m currently chilling on blahaj because the moderation is pretty good (usually) but having downvotes disabled really hampers things at times as some pretty terrible shit sometimes gets a lot of upvotes but you never see the downvotes.
Even Blahaj has the admin going to bat for outright cranks, and censoring the gentlest criticism as “gatekeeping.”
Capitalized pronouns are not a gender issue. That’s not how pronouns or gender work. Anyone insisting the little people call them Her Majesty deserves to be ignored at best, whether they’re trans or cis.
And that’s the shallow end of this conversation - I had someone insist on equal respect for emoji as pronouns. Hard no. Fuck off. I don’t even respect emoji as text. I don’t care how hard anyone feels it; you cannot sexually identify as a pumpkin symbol. That’s not what those words mean. Me saying so is fucking obviously not the same kind of disrespect as deadnaming someone, and people trying to equate them are insulting the trans community. Trans women are women. No human being is produce.
Almost wrote “no human being is fucking produce,” but I have videos to the contrary.
You won’t hear me defending the admin here that’s for sure. And I agree with you on everything in your comment here.
It ain’t perfect here for a number of reasons but it’s a pretty chill place at least in the communities I participate in on this instance. Though I have had some weird to shitty experiences with mods on this instance on more than a few occasions.
One thing I don’t like over here on Lemmy is that when a mod action happens against you you don’t get a notification of any kind. So unless you check the mod logs you’ll typically never know something happened.
NGL I’m half tempted to make a bot that crawls the mod logs to tell people when something happens to their posts or comments.
It’s already been requested as a feature request, see https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4572
Presumably it’d interfere with .ml etc censoring dissenting (i.e. sane) opinions, which is why it’s not happening. Same as how instance blocking was like pulling teeth
Maybe there’s no good answer 'cause I’m on an app, but how do you even check the modlogs.
On the sidebar of every community in lemmy-ui is a link to the modlog. For example, here’s a screenshot of this community’s sidebar:
Unfortunately on Jerboa I couldn’t find any way to get to the modlog. Don’t know about other apps.
You can also navigate to /modlog on your instance. e.g. https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog. Unfortunately it’s not very easy to use, and it’s not always clear. For example, when I loaded the page, one entry I saw said “mod Banned @[email protected]”. Which mod? Why, what did they do? Where have they been banned from?
Another entry when I look at the modlog from my instance says “mod Banned [email protected] from the community [email protected] reason: advocating assassination expires: 4 days ago”. Mostly great, I know who was banned and from where and why. I still don’t know who did it, but whatever. The only catch? The ban was issued 2 hours ago. Issued 2 hours ago but expired 4 days ago? Huh?
I’m glad it exists, but I rarely look at it. It’s just not practical to use most of the time.
Ah, thanks!
I’m on Sync and I don’t see any convenient way of looking at it either. This info does help a lot, though.
Unfortunately I’ve yet to find an app that makes getting to the modlog easy so the only option I’ve found is to open my phone’s web browser and check it that way.
At least Lemmy works better on mobile than a lot of other sites
I’m only on ShitJustWorks because I thought Lemmy.World straight-up deleted my account.
For repeatedly explaining to someone that I was arguing for copyright reform… while they just slapped the table and parroted the status quo. As if ‘but! copyright! exists!’ was both news and a counterargument. That sort of trolling horseshit is what moderation’s supposed to be for. Not waiting for someone to say a no-no word. Or to heave a sigh and say, go ahead, make good on your adorable threat to report me, I’ve done nothing but humor you with more effort than your comments deserve.
But every moderator dense enough to demand “civility” never reads anything besides the comment that gets reported. And none of them have any god-damn idea what trolling looks like, so good luck getting your own reports acknowledged. On reddit I could imagine a conscious effort to ratchet discussions toward right-wing nonsense. But here? No. Here it’s just ignorance of what makes discussions worth having.
If people can lie and misrepresent and spin and lie, without any fucking consequences, but ‘I think this user is being dishonest’ is an intolerable personal attack, you run a community for those liars.
I’ve literally had some of my comments (on this account and others) removed while other people agreeing with me don’t have theirs removed.
Or moderators banning people for stuff that’s not even against their rules but they just put it as the reason anyways.
Not to mention the amount of misinformation that flies around that goes completely unchecked.
I’m currently chilling on blahaj because the moderation is pretty good (usually) but having downvotes disabled really hampers things at times as some pretty terrible shit sometimes gets a lot of upvotes but you never see the downvotes.
Even Blahaj has the admin going to bat for outright cranks, and censoring the gentlest criticism as “gatekeeping.”
Capitalized pronouns are not a gender issue. That’s not how pronouns or gender work. Anyone insisting the little people call them Her Majesty deserves to be ignored at best, whether they’re trans or cis.
And that’s the shallow end of this conversation - I had someone insist on equal respect for emoji as pronouns. Hard no. Fuck off. I don’t even respect emoji as text. I don’t care how hard anyone feels it; you cannot sexually identify as a pumpkin symbol. That’s not what those words mean. Me saying so is fucking obviously not the same kind of disrespect as deadnaming someone, and people trying to equate them are insulting the trans community. Trans women are women. No human being is produce.
Almost wrote “no human being is fucking produce,” but I have videos to the contrary.
You won’t hear me defending the admin here that’s for sure. And I agree with you on everything in your comment here.
It ain’t perfect here for a number of reasons but it’s a pretty chill place at least in the communities I participate in on this instance. Though I have had some weird to shitty experiences with mods on this instance on more than a few occasions.
That would be s great bot
lemmy.world afaik has one or had one.