We don’t need them. If they stop alienating the left and everyone else who’s vehemently against genocide, the people in the ideological sliver between the most conservative Democrats and the least conservative MAGA cult members become electorally irrelevant.
If they stop alienating the left and everyone else who’s vehemently against genocide, the people in the ideological sliver between the most conservative Democrats and the least conservative MAGA cult members become electorally irrelevant.
While I wish that were true, it’s simply not, there’s still more movable “moderates” in between Democrats and MAGA for them to matter massively electorally, and still far far too few leftist Democratic voters for them to have to listen to.
I’ve only ever heard this as a talking point but never backed up with any data. There are hundreds of thousands of voters to win in key states by forcing Israel to agree to a permanent ceasefire with conditional military aid that requires them to abide by International Law
It’s certainly not far more unless you’re only looking at Republicans.
From the poll:
Republicans and Republican leaners are more supportive of providing Israel with military aid than are Democrats and Democratic leaners. Half of Republicans favor military aid, with about three-in-ten saying they strongly favor it.
A plurality of Democrats (43%) oppose providing Israel with military aid for the war against Hamas, while a quarter support it.
U.S. adults are divided about whether Biden is favoring the Israelis too much (22%), favoring the Palestinians too much (16%) or striking the right balance (21%) on the Israel-Hamas war. Fully 40% say they are not sure.
While overall views have changed little since we last asked this question in November and December 2023, the share of adults under 30 who feel Biden tilts too far toward Israel has risen 9 percentage points, from 27% to 36%.
But this poll does not discuss Americans view on a ceasefire. If you poll democrats and independents in swing states on that issue you get the following:
An April 2024 poll of likely voters across the U.S. found that 30% strongly supported withholding military funds to Israel until the attacks on Gaza stop; another 25% somewhat supported that conditional aid policy.
Below we asked all respondents what minimum combination of policies would secure (for non-Biden voters) or solidify (for Biden voters) a vote for Biden for President. A third or more voters in every state except Minnesota said a lasting ceasefire was among the minimum policies that would be needed to secure solidify their votes
Although voters are split on whether they approve or disapprove of Biden’s handling of the war, the vast majority (≥ ~75%) across all states still support an immediate and permanent ceasefire. Only a small minority of voters, from 11.2% to 16.1% in Minnesota and Pennsylvania, respectively, strongly approve of the President’s approach on Gaza. Of those, the vast majority in each state (≥64%) strongly support an immediate and permanent ceasefire. That is to say, a change in approach would not lose those votes, but staying on the current path risks doing so.
Yeah, excuse me if I don’t jump for joy at the thought of a cease fire that Netanyahu has no intention of honoring if, against all odds, he signs it.
What’s needed is for the US and other countries to stop supplying weapons to commit genocide with, at the very least, and preferably treat the fascist apartheid regime like they treated that of South Africa.
We don’t need them. If they stop alienating the left and everyone else who’s vehemently against genocide, the people in the ideological sliver between the most conservative Democrats and the least conservative MAGA cult members become electorally irrelevant.
While I wish that were true, it’s simply not, there’s still more movable “moderates” in between Democrats and MAGA for them to matter massively electorally, and still far far too few leftist Democratic voters for them to have to listen to.
I’ve only ever heard this as a talking point but never backed up with any data. There are hundreds of thousands of voters to win in key states by forcing Israel to agree to a permanent ceasefire with conditional military aid that requires them to abide by International Law
Here’s the most recent data from Pew
Far more Americans still lean Pro-Israel.
It’s certainly not far more unless you’re only looking at Republicans.
From the poll:
But this poll does not discuss Americans view on a ceasefire. If you poll democrats and independents in swing states on that issue you get the following:
You say “genocide is bad”, but can you also say with me “islam is bad”?
Not that it has anything to do with any current genocide but sure, Islam IS bad. Not any worse than Christianity is, though. 🤷
literally nobody has done more in government to push for a ceasefire than biden and harris…
Yeah, excuse me if I don’t jump for joy at the thought of a cease fire that Netanyahu has no intention of honoring if, against all odds, he signs it.
What’s needed is for the US and other countries to stop supplying weapons to commit genocide with, at the very least, and preferably treat the fascist apartheid regime like they treated that of South Africa.