• Kedly@lemm.ee
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        Tbf, there were a few times I’ve wanted to murder some people.

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          same. But it’s not fear of God that keeps me from doing it. It’s the dread of going to prison.

          Just like Taco Guy. He knows there are no tacos in prison so he lives life in such a way to avoid prison.

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      The number of apparently utterly batshit insane potential criminals that are only held in check (barely) by religion in the US is quite disturbing.

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      Agreed. If the only that stops some people from committing crimes is the threat of supernatural punishment, then they have the morality of an insect.

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      As an atheist I can’t tell you how many Christians have asked me why I don’t just rape and murder people if I don’t believe in hell. Tells me everything I need to know about that POS.

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    I always hate that argument. Why be a decent human without the threat of eternal damnation? I mean that threat doesn’t seem to stop a vast number of religious people from being unbelievably cruel to their fellow humans, so…

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      It seriously feels good to see this written down sometimes. I hate that religion somehow laid claim to morality.

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    This person is openly telling you that the only thing stopping them from being a shitty person is some myth about otherworldly punishment after they die.

    Which, of course, means they’ll be juuuust as shitty as they believe they can get away with.

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      Yeah, the “why be good if there’s no God/Hell” is a disturbing as fuck argument, because it essentially says that if they decide that their god wants them to start killing, they’ll do it.

      I’m good because if I do something bad, I feel bad about it. It’s pretty simple.

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    People who say they are only good because of the threat of eternal damnation are literal psychopaths.

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    Why be good if there is no hell?

    Erm… If you need to be threathened with eternal torture in order to be a good person, then chances are you are not good person.

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      Exactly this thought made made me understand “god is irrelevant” a long time ago and I became an agnosticist.

      I really can not understand people who are only “good” because they fear an ultimate judgment, and not be good just because they want to out of their own volition.

      In case there are gods, I’ll be judged for who I am, anyways. It doesn’t matter if I play “good child”. If there are no gods, I’m still happier if I’m not an asshole.

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      I’m glad you asked. It bends my brain imagining one person making up this conversation. He’s clever. It also bends my brain that two people could have this conversation. either way it’s kinda genius.