She’s looking at it with the knowledge afterwards that someone is actually going to do it. And not if they have to be sure before they shoot someone. trump rallies are full of idiots climbing on shit and being idiots.

Exactly this. It’s really easy to look at the situation afterwards and have trouble believing how it could have gotten that far. But that’s because from the outside we don’t know how many incidents they have narrowly avoided or how many potential incidents turned out to be nothing.

This is also classic conspiracy theory territory. Could it be that the world is complex and scary? That even trained secret service agents make potentially fatal errors? No, because we can pretend that even though there was a shooter it was all planned and under control. Somehow the idea that things like this are under the control of some malicious enemy is more comforting than the horrible unpredictability of it all in reality.

There was a zero percent chance that some random person with a rifle was able to scale a roof, unless there was just an unbelievable failure of intelligence. And you want to know why it’s unbelievable? Because I don’t effing believe it. I don’t believe it. I want the names of the Secret Service agents that allowed this remarkable security failure to go down, because I don’t believe this.

The “school” of hard knocks strikes again. She is still on the same bullshit. Obviously the secret service wanted this to happen, or something 🙄

Yeah they chose quite the time to make the perfect the enemy of the good

Never mind dude, there is a link, but I’ve already tried to explain it. You were correct in your comment, which I think is all you’re bothered about.

I was responding to what you said about what they said. This is generally how conversations go

I was talking about the thing the person you responded to was talking about.

Anyway, this was oddly hostile so I’m out.

I obviously mistook this as a conversation about the upcoming election and Biden’s chances, but I can see now that you are purely interested in correcting someone about this one thing, and not about whether or not that has an important impact on Biden’s chances.

Yes wow you’re right it isn’t the “main” source of the discontent. Congratulations.

I didn’t say it was the main source of discontent. I just think that being able to win the election is the most important thing. It doesn’t have to be the “main” source to cause the problem we’re all talking about.

You said this:

Voters simply don’t care about Gaza anywhere near as much as they care about literally everything else:

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It shows up in poll after poll after poll. With the exception of chronically online lemmings and less than 10% of Democratic voters, nobody else really cares.

How big were the win margins in 2020 again?

What we want is a cease fire except we don’t cease firing.

Yeah sure thing bro

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Go Corbyn! Despite all the smears he remains a good person fighting for what is right

Yeah I’m sure Putin’s top priority is infiltrating the Linux nerds and Trekkies in their natural habitat. Facebook? Nah. Reddit? Nyet. We need to go where the real action is.

I think this is less of a problem than you’re implying

The original and a still large instance is Lemmy.ml. The ML meaning Marxist Leninist.

Yeah I know, I subscribe to some communities there.

They even preemptively ban accounts who post outside of their instance if you say truthful things like NATO is a defensive alliance, Russia is the aggressor in Ukraine, or China is being imperialist themselves in SE Asia.

I will test this then! Russia is the aggressor in Ukraine and Putin is a cunt. Stalin was a monster. I’ll make similar comments over on ml at the next opportunity. (Edit let’s see how it goes https://lemmy.world/comment/11002066)

Just to be clear. I don’t doubt that there are normal people here who are pro Russia or are tankies. What I doubt is that real people are being paid money to “influence the conversation” on this relatively obscure platform. That’s all

Yeah but on Lemmy? Of all places?

Why would anyone pay someone to post on Lemmy? Not the biggest expense/exposure ratio, surely?

Lemmy is flooded with Russian influence

What do you mean by that? That people use “Russian” talking points or that there are literally bots/agitators directly from Russia trying to shape the narrative here?