Its not antisemitic to criticize israel for the genocide of the palestinian people.

No you didnt.

Pigs arrested you under false pretenses.

Not wrong. The local markets i have experience with are the most populated locations in the United States. Portland, chicago, New york, miami, seattle, la, sf, atlanta.

I would imagine living in hondo, tx sucks ass but that’s not because of tipping.

Ok, I’ll lay out for all of you idiots.

In our current system, customers almost directly pay wages for servers and chefs, and it stays tied to menu prices. Thus, wages go up when prices go up.

In this suggested system, you trust the ownership class to raise wages for some reason because that works fantastically in the United States.

Im not sure why you’re suggesting that because the capitalist class will always, always, always bleed whatever they can dry. You know that, i know that the railworkers in the us know that.

Like come on, use your tiny tiny brain that apparently can’t multiple 50 times .2 and think about this for a second. This will and has absolutely led to wage suppression because they will absolutely not raise wages once they are set.

It’s crazy to me that so many people on a sub called “work reform” are advocating for the ownership class and lowering wages. Like, why do you think we’re all here???

Fuck.

The ideal situation would be unions, but no one here has suggested that for some reason, maybe its because no one in this conversation, with the exception of myself, has ever stepped foot onto a restaurant floor with intent to work outside of the one time they washed dishes at an applebees when they were 16.

I feel like im taking fuckin crazy pills with the amount of capitialist bullshit im reading here.

Whats wrong with all of you???

The extra money comes from the customer no matter the system.

But now wages will stay down while ownership makes more.

Its nuts to me how many people in this thread support and trust the ownership class.

Do you trust the ownership class?

That’s a false comparison, and you know it.

Wait, are you telling me that the market decides wages and we should be happy with it?

That’s capitalist bullshit.

Fwiw, the industry has changed. Chefs are paid on par with foh nowadays.

Do you have a source on that statement?

I do not own a restaurant but am a worker, bartender specifically.

Every restaurant that i know of or have worked in that switches to a non-tipped wage leads to suppressed/lower wages, and that’s from someone who has intimate access to the books.

Pay is definitely more consistent but not as high on average by design.

Continue advocating for the owner class then i guess.

Staff make more money on a tipped system than not.

In most major cities youd be hard pressed to find even an ‘ok’ position that is paying minumum wage. Most are making 20-25+tips.

Edit: the dishwasher at my restaurant makes 72k. Thats not a joke.

Lol, im not an owner dingus.

Ive worked basically every position from busser and expo all the way to exec chef and gm and am currently a bartender. I can sayy with first hand knowledge that wages go down when switched from a tipped system to a non tipped system.

I guess first hand knowledge of the industry counts for nothing when a bunch of tech bros on lemmy know more than me.

Edit: makes me sad that people who want worker reform would want to support owner suppression of wages.

I know it doesnt fit your neat little box, but it is facts.

It’s not 1995 anymore. Most restaurants require chefs to be tipped out.

Its only the really shitty ones that dont.

Having a burden to pay your staff is just that - a burden.

It doesnt mean that owners wont make more money, its just a bigger pain in the ass than its worth.

Turning tipped positions into non-tipped positions will push down wages for those formerly tipped positions.

At least when prices went up, servers got a piece. Now restaurant owners will stagnate wages and pocket the increase.

Its good to know progressives will hold our country hostage rather than take baby steps to a progressive country.

Doesnt matter if theyre gay/straight, this is very obviously sexualizing minors. The skirts blowing up is a dead giveaway.

This promotes pedophilia.

Idk why so many grown nerds insist on sexualizing little girls.

Edit: wow turns out this instance is full of pedophiles. Gross.

Ok, but like i can just click a button.