There is some irony in that every time I talk to conservative friends/family about the things I loath Biden for, they’re reasons they should love him, if only the media reported on it.

He’s weak on the border? The one he tried to close, but was blocked by republicans, so he went around congress to illegally kick out refugees?

There’s too many brown people? He’s deported more people than Trump did.

He’s left Israel out to dry? He sent everything that was allocated to them, and more, and even bombed Yemen to support the genocide of Gaza.

Abortion? Who exactly is letting Roe lie dead?

Welfare? He ended covid protections, child poverty skyrocketed.

No, but he wrote the 94 crime bill, which heuristically targeted black people with the 100:1 rule.

We’re getting away from the main point.

non-ideological judgement is impossible because “impartially” applying for example, textualism is still ideological, because the choice to use textualism vs any other method is ideological.

liberals tend to favour fairness of outcome

You’re confusing liberals and socialists. Here’s Liberalism: A counter-history, which examines the history and evolution of liberalism. It contextualizes both the historical promotion of political rights and seeming contradictions like their removal under liberalism.

it still wasn’t three years.

Oh no it was closer to 2.5 years than 3.5 years!

Come on, you know this doesn’t refute my point.

Telling them to “fuck off” is meaningless nonsense.

The SCOTUS has no means to enforce its decisions. It knows this and has historically kowtowed to the executive when faced with its own marginalization.

The president literally can just ignore them, as Trump did when they made a ruling he didn’t like such as DACA. There’s some other precedents: https://revealnews.org/blog/a-brief-history-of-presidents-telling-so-called-judges-to-get-lost/

He took an action that took 3 years to complete instead of ending it on day one and telling the courts to fuck off.

That’s keeping it in place for 3 years.

This isn’t misinformation, this is you being intentionally dense.

It doesn’t matter if his excuse was some court he can just ignore and face no consequences asked him to keep it in place or if did it on a whim, he had the power to change it, he didn’t use it. It was in place for like 3 and a half years.

You’re not calling out misinformation, you’re quibbling.

Nobody is talking about the Muslim ban, we’re talking about the more recent attempt to close the mexican border.

But it’s irrelevant, you’re still missing the point.

My point is that Biden’s unpopular actions decrease how many people will vote for him. This is how Biden ensures Trump will come to power.

Trump’s Title 42 and Muslim ban were far worse.

Biden waited 3.5 years to end title 42 and tried to close the border. He has deported more people than Trump.

POTUS has no reasonable control over grocery store prices

He literally does though. But there’s a million other things he could have done when he had control. Instead we just get excuses about how powerless the party controlling both houses and the presidency was because of Manchin or the parliamentarian or the SCOTUS or some rules the dems set for themselves or norms or whatever.

There’s no point in quibbling about whether Biden was less bad than trump, these actions decrease how many people will vote for him. Implementing policy that makes you lose the election is refusing to stand in republican’s way.

We’ve been saying from day one, that if Biden doesn’t move to the left and use every tool at his disposal to improve people’s material conditions, Trump’s going to win in 2024.

Biden didn’t just not go left, he tried to outflank the republicans from the right by facilitating genocide, ending covid protections, and passing the most draconian border bill since like the 40s.

This is the closest thing he could have done to handing Trump the presidency, short of appointing him VP and stepping down.

Yall need to learn some history.

The liberal SDP split with the communists, supporting “centrist” Hindenburg in the name of unity.

The communists campaigned on “A vote for Hindenburg is a vote for Hitler is a vote for war”

Hindenburg won the election, getting more votes than either the communist or fascist candidates.

Hindenburg, the liberal candidate, then proceeded to make Hitler the chancellor and staff positions of power with nazis while purging the government of communists.

The nazis then barely had to do anything to assert complete control.

The nazis didn’t get in power because communists stayed home, they got into power because the liberals would rather work with fascists than communists.

You really don’t understand what I’m saying do you?

No amount of messaging or vote shaming or self delusion can override the dogshit policies Biden has enacted trying to appeal to “moderate republicans”.

But if you learned nothing from 2016, I’m sure in November you’ll blame everyone but the people with power.

Do you genuinely believe that people who are angry about supporting a genocide are bots?

They both suck. You have to pick one

That’s how Trump won in the first place. You cannot message your way to winning an election. This is not a problem with voters, it’s a problem with democrats passing right-wing policy, and can only be solved by the democrats.

If you pick the wrong guy, you also won’t be able to protest for any kind of change.

You don’t get to say that while cops are beating the shit out of students for protesting. You shouldn’t be pissed at me, you should be pissed at the guy doing things that lose the election.

If everyone in Gaza is dead or displaced, it literally does not fucking matter. That is the path Israel is on, which Biden is assisting with.

You are delusional if you think you can win an election on “the other guy will be more vocal in his support for genocide”.

Instead of coming at me for pointing this out, you should be coming at any dem who isn’t calling for a massive u-turn in policy before it’s too late.

This is the same head-in-the-sand thinking let everyone around Biden tell themselves that he was fit for this debate.

level headed voice trying to minimize palestinian casualties

Biden isn’t doing that though, you can’t send someone the bombs they’re using to cause those casualties and say you’re trying to minimize it. Minimizing Palestinian casualties would be using all tools at your disposal to make Palestinian casualties the as low as possible.

The question is would you rather a president who openly facilitates the slaughter of Palestinians or pretends to oppose the slaughter of Palestinians while facilitating it.

The answer is it doesn’t fucking matter, ethnic cleansing is ethnic cleansing.

Do you just do things entirely at random with no input from your understanding of the world?

No? Then congrats, you’ve got ideology. I’m gonna assume it’s liberalism, since they’re typically the only ones both dumb and arrogant enough to think they’re not only non-political, but non-ideological.

That’s not at all what they’re saying, IHeartCheese is saying you, the citizen, don’t have power over the SCOTUS.

But you’d be right as in both sides are ideological, how else do you think they decide which interpretation to use if not by ideology?

Or are you one of those libs who doesn’t think they have ideology?

I’d hope it would have you asking yourself why you’re supporting the same policies we all agreed were bad under Trump.

These shithead illegal immigration policies probably wouldnt even be in the spotlight if scared old white people weren’t the biggest swath of participating voters.

Fascists are never going to vote democrat.

Triangulation doesn’t work. When you triangulate yourself to be 1 inch left of hitler, the people who want hitler vote hitler, and the people who wanted not-hitler don’t vote. When you get elected for being not-hitler, and proceed to facilitate genocide, people who wanted not-hitler don’t vote

You learned nothing in 2020.

You learned nothing when Obama lost the house and senate in 2010 after not pulling out of Iraq+afghanistan, ending the war on drugs, and doing other stuff that voters expected of him, instead tryed to reach out to moderate republicans.

You learned nothing when Kerry lost after campaigning on doing the wars more competently in 2004.

And you will learn nothing in November.

Now what the fuck do we do about this impending presidential vote?

Pressure Biden to cut off all aid to Israel and sanction them until they give equal civil rights to Palestinians and return their homes, use military hospitals to provide healthcare to women, send in the military to destroy the child-drowning fence on the rio, etc.

Doing good things instead of bad things is only way Biden can hope to be reelected (no, the republicans or the parliamentarian or the SCOTUS or Joe Manchin or civility and norms aren’t an excuse).