We’re gonna have to share that list, I still had a bunch of unblocked people in here.

God.fucking.dammit.

When these two debates were announced, I knew it was going to be fucked up, but NO. Oooh he’s got to debate! He’ll show everyone how bad trump is! He needs to do it to help the undecideds!

Fucking insane gibberish of a person who learned NOTHING from 2016. We got away with it in 2020 on the sheer novelty of an adult, a representative of government, telling trump to shut the fuck up. Now that was good tv. But it was a one-off.

And now look at this shit. These fuckheads who can’t wait to elect trump are all up in here going “ooooh noooo Biden’s so bad he’s making us have trump be elected!1!!”

Goddammit. The fucking “Operation gENoSiDE jOe” wasn’t gaining enough traction so THANK FUCK a bunch of Harvard MBA fuckups roundly decided Joe should stand on stage with a demented socopathic rapist who is functionally incapable of telling the truth and, y’know, give folks in the rural areas a little of the ol’, y’know, compare and contrast! What a goddamned brilliant idea. Hey! Let’s do it twice! Yeah! We are soooo smrt.

Son of a fucking bitch, now we have to watch this garbage-truck-off-a-cliff-in-slow-motion for probably the next three months while all the Li’l Che Guevaras pile in every thread like clowns in a decrepit, backfiring bus, farting and defecating the same pointless key phrases over and over.

DNC, you fucked up again because you refuse to understand how media works. Trumps out here kicking in windows and laughing and you guys are faxing press releases to republiQan-run news organizations and hoping their spin isn’t terrible. Christ in a bucket.

The Murdochian consensus, yes.

As for the rest of us, anyone who’s bothered to look can see the situation fits trump to a T.

Allegedly.

Plus the death threats, the prospect of that court case defining one’s life, and being a very young adult wanting only to forget it.

Price: your help in overthrowing the American government for me.

Line forms on the right.

From your link:

In practice, the sample size used in a study is usually determined based on the cost, time, or convenience of collecting the data, and the need for it to offer sufficient statistical power.

You see how the elements listed there (cost, time, convenience, and ‘sufficient statistical power’) are more qualitative measurements and not known constants? (I mean, whenever it starts with, “In practice . . .” you know it means “in a perfect system devoid of unknowns”, or in other words “ideally but you’ll see it doesn’t work exactly like that” )

What is the sufficient statistical power for sampling Europe? 0.002%? Two thousandths of a single percent? That greenlights your findings? Okay. I disagree. Polling companies don’t disagree because in this case, as you noted, 20k is an amazing sample size. The cost and time for that - not to mention the convenience! - alone is amazing . . for an opinion poll. No doubt they’re proud, that’s a fine achievement for an opinion poll. Now: did they measure what they set out to measure? I doubt it, but since the methodology given is the single word “online”, I remain skeptical.

And saying “but there’s math in it!” is exactly why I’m skeptical. That effectively means nothing, and it’s used to validate whatever conclusions were presented. “We ran the numbers, and . . ” can mean very specific things, and in some contexts it is good enough to move on to the conclusions. Polls trade on that, but they don’t deserve to.

No. The math is sound. The premise is flawed.

Yeah. Not that we haven’t been saying it for forty years, just that we forgot to build a propaganda empire based on corrupt politicians and lies to promote it.

Exactly.

Actually I’m antidisunedificatory.

I think the huge polling industry is based on, and a provider of, multiple lies.

I think the average person, who will incorporate polling headlines into their worldview, is unaware of the enormous differences.

That was from the source pdf linked in the article, fwiw. It also didn’t have any methodology notes, it was just results.

Extraterrestrial observer: And, do they know each of those vehicles are directly killing all life as they know it?

‘Murican: (Proudly) Yes!

It’s like a free ride when you’ve already paid

Yep. Corporate news made their choice in 2016. The resulting chaos, dysfunction, and humiliation to the country did nothing to change their minds.

Oh, “hundreds of millions”? Oh Boo Fucking Hoo. They’ll make that back in two goddamned weeks.

These fines are a goddamned joke. Jail the CEOs or just admit the whole thing’s a farce.

Looks like you’re late for something.

Yeah, you know what it is. Chop chop, let’s go.

The public isn’t aware of shit. That’s not a reflection of the victories, that’s a condemnation of the media people consume.

That’s some Emperor Palpatine shit

Ahh okay so Biden or nothing is essentially your take on all the “replacement” hullabaloo. Fair enough. It would definitely be a unique situation.