Joe Biden has launched one of his most scathing attacks yet on Donald Trump’s record of racism, suggesting that the former US president would have acted differently to the January 6 2021 insurrection if was led by Black people.

The remarks, at a dinner hosted by a civil rights organisation in a critical swing state, pointed to an intensifying battle between Biden and Trump for African American voters ahead of November’s presidential election.

“Let me ask you,” Biden said during an address to an NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) dinner in Detroit. “What do you think he would have done on January 6 if Black Americans had stormed the Capitol?”

There was a collective gasp and murmur in the cavernous convention centre, where an estimated 5,000 guests had gathered. The president insisted: “No, I’m serious. What do you think? I can only imagine.”

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    it would never have happened in the first place. if roles were reversed, there would have been adequate forces in place to prevent it from escalating.

    Remember, Trump made sure to have a relatively light law enforcement presence in the capital. There were no unscalable barricades present. there was no call for the Nat Guard- despite assurances they were ready to go, and that was trump’s call.

    the entire insurrection was planned by people who wanted to put trump back in the white house by any means necessary. I don’t know that it was entirely planned by trump- he’s a moron- but it was certainly done with his cooperation.

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      Ah yes how can we forget the two dozen armed black people practicing their 2nd amendment that caused Reagan to sign a gun control law so said blacks couldn’t have guns anymore 🤣😂

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      The court documents also revealed that Perry sent inappropriate messages to someone who claimed to be 16 years old through Kik Messenger, a communication platform that has been used to share child pornography.

      "Also promise me no nudes until you are old enough to be of age,” Perry wrote, the same month he shot and killed Foster.

      Before signing off, Perry wrote, “I am going to bed come up with a reason why I should be your boyfriend before I wake up.”

      WTF?

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    In Detroit a leader of the Pro-Palestinian protesters said “This community will be the community who unseats Joe Biden. … A president who has fostered an atmosphere of hate against our community.”

    Just that ignorance of Muslim and Palestinians here. The atmosphere of hate is coming from Trump and the Republicans and these people are openly supporting him. Being used by the right to help bring more prejudice and racist policies to their people. Trump gets elected and you can say goodbye to any chance of Palestinian recovery. The Israelis are not going to stop with Gaza. Once it’s secured the war with the west bank will begin.

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      Pro-Palestinian protesters said “This community will be the community who unseats Joe Biden.

      Yeah, those ranks of “protesters” are riddled with Republican/Putin operatives. If Biden is unseated, say goodbye to Palestine. Israel will have the green light to eradicate the people of Gaza.

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        This is cognitive dissonance from someone that wants people to support someone literally complicit in the genocide of their people.

        I’ve not seen any evidence of Republicans at any rallies.

        The Putin comment is just ‘anything I don’t like is Putin.’

        Let me be clear. Biden and the DNC intentionally chose to forego important parts of a primary. Biden chose to be complicit in a genocide. If Biden losses, it will be his fault he lost.

        If you expect to be able to supply the weapons to a government engaged in a genocide against a population that also happens to be a requisite part of your winning coalition and still have them vote for you, then you are stupid beyond description.

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          If you expect to be able to supply the weapons to a government engaged in a genocide against a population that also happens to be a requisite part of your winning coalition and still have them vote for you, then you are stupid beyond description.

          So with Biden putting a hold on weapon shipments to Israel over concerns about the citizens of Gaza, and the Republicans passing a bill forcing the weapons to be sent to Israel, your logic says that people shouldn’t vote for Republican legislators.

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            Do you even have the slightest idea who the largest voting block is? People don’t need to vote for a Republican for Biden to lose. They just have to not vote.

            It’s amazing you even posted that as a response.

            Sure, I would advocate for Republicans not voting for Republican legislators, if the Republican base wanted a ceasefire. But they don’t. The Republican party is afraid of their base. The Democratic party has contempt for theirs.

            Also, Biden already started shipping those weapons, regardless of that vote. Holding up the weapons temporarily was an attempt to look like he was doing something, same as the floating pier was. Did you even read the link? It hasn’t passed the Senate yet.

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              Do you even have the slightest idea who the largest voting block is? People don’t need to vote for a Republican for Biden to lose. They just have to not vote

              And who do you think is going to win then?

              Come January 2025, the next president will be either Biden or Trump. The election is your one chance to say which one. Act accordingly.

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                Too bad that Biden chose to alienate a requisite member of his coalition.

                Hold him accountable for his decisions.

                He chose an action, supporting genocide, that will cost him the general, and chose not to run a primary.

                Edit: I don’t understand these responses that try and imply voting is an individual moral decision. It has the same logic of blaming the consumer and individual choices for carbon based climate change instead of the people with culpability and power to change things.

                Edit edit: I think at this point, unless someone dies, that Trump will be elected. To be clear, I am not voting for Trump.

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      In Detroit a leader of the Pro-Palestinian protesters said “This community will be the community who unseats Joe Biden. … A president who has fostered an atmosphere of hate against our community.”

      This person will be at the front of the line to have their citizenship stripped & exiled if Trump is elected.

      If you don’t think Trump will do it & SCotUS will allow it, you’re a dangerous moron.

      EDIT: Oh look, there is one now.

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        Would you care about that if Trumps opponent was providing weapons and diplomatic cover to the people exterminating your entire extended family back home?

        Actually think about that before blindly answering yes.

        Imagine the trauma of losing your entire family. Knowing the children suffered horribly before dying. Knowing that the ones who followed Israels movement orders starved to death.

        If you can’t understand why that would cause people to hate Biden, regardless of his opponent, then you have so little human empathy that it makes you incompetent at gauging the strategic outcomes of your actions.

        It also makes you a shitty human without empathy.

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          Would you care about that if Trumps opponent was providing weapons and diplomatic cover

          Of course I would. But I’m also intelligent enough to know that you put your own oxygen mask on before you start helping others.

          I’m also smart enough to understand that “You should vote your emotions” is the absolute dumbest possible take.

          Furthermore, I can empathize with someone & still be aware they are making a stupid decision.

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            Not voting for the person who could have single handedly stopped the slaughter of your entire family but didn’t isn’t ‘voting your emotions’

            I can’t imagine anyone but a sociopath writing that.

            EDIT: the stupid choice is voting for someone that wants a genocide committed. If a system is only capable of supplying two genocidiers, then it isn’t a system worth defending.

            Also, putting morality aside for a moment, but nothing is stupider than assisting in the genocide of a people whom make up a required component of your coalition.

            Reminder: Biden doesn’t win the swing States without Muslim support. This is a self own. Blaming anyone else for this is a case of victim blaming.

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              Not voting for the person who could have single handedly stopped the slaughter of your entire family but didn’t isn’t ‘voting your emotions’

              Liar, liar. I guess you missed when Biden attempted that & was overruled by the GOP fascists in Congress?

              Because Congress controls the purse? Slept thru Civics, did we?

              BTW, we can all plainly see that you’re pulling out all the “emotional manipulation” stops here, but fortunately, you’re very, very bad at it.

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                Jesus Christ. The only one that slept through civics and didn’t read their own posts here is you.

                Congress didn’t overrule Biden. The house voted for something that hasn’t, and won’t, be able to pass the Senate. Nothing has happened here yet.

                Congress controls the purse strings, yes, and the executive branch is responsible for the implementation. Biden absolutely could have told the Israelis to stop at any point, with actual consequences such as removing the fleet from the red sea, promising not to support them against Iran, stop weapons shipments that due to the Lehy law we actually are legally required to stop. All could be done by the executive.

                Stop being condescending about topics you apparently know nothing about.

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                  LOL, Reduced to “I know you are, but what am I”? Seriously?

                  such as removing the fleet from the red sea,

                  This is the fleet that just got done building the humanitarian aid pier. What a fucking brilliant idea!

                  The administration this month paused a shipment of large bombs on the grounds that Israel would cause heavy loss of civilian lives using the munitions in the Gaza Strip. The move also sought to discourage Israel from deepening its ground invasion in the city of Rafah, where some 1 million Palestinians are sheltering in unsafe conditions.

                  But Republican officials quickly came out in opposition to the decision, warning that the paused shipment would embolden Israel’s enemies in the region and weaken Israel’s hand as it seeks to rescue hostages held by Hamas.

                  “Israel needs these weapons to eradicate the terrorists who have vowed the destruction of Israel, and Israel needs it to protect itself and its people,” Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla., a member of the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, said during floor debate Thursday. “Withholding vital resources jeopardizes not only Israel’s ability to defend itself but also our national security by harming and weakening our strongest ally.”

                  https://rollcall.com/2024/05/16/house-passes-bill-to-require-ongoing-flow-of-weapons-to-israel/

                  By all means, keep up the lies. We are educating people here, whether you like it or not. 🤣🤣🤣

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      And if you disagree with them, they’ll literally claim you love genocide. I’ve seen that repeatedly. Dumbest shit ever

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    There would be non-stop coverage of Jan 6 on Fox News 24/7 since the day it happened, guaranteed.

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    The Biden government and cops would’ve crushed the riots with way more force if they’d been lead by black americans. Just look at how much more violent the cops are against students protesting peacefully compared to how they straight-up helped the trump supporters into the Capitol most of the way lmfao.

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      Are you really that daft that you think police under trump will be more responsible and more, you know, doing their actual job of protect and serve, instead of profiling and killing?

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        Police across the US have been killing people at a greater rate every year under his admin, so what exactly about Biden’s glowing record on police violence is worth comparing to Trump? Not to mention he wants to hire another 100,000 more pigs.

        You don’t get to gloat about how much better you are with black people when you’re no better than the guy characterising himself as some kind of American Mussolini.

        The rest of you liberals can fuck off back to reddit too. You don’t get to claim victory over a fascist that your golden dementia boy is no better than. Absolutely pathetic that you act morally superior to kids dying because he’s on “your team”

        EDIT:

        Before you leave you “but trump!!” comment, consider reopening your Reddit account because this snark about Biden being better than Trump when they both get throbbing erections for brutalised kids won’t get you nearly as far as it did on that astroturfed shithole.

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          Wow, very… Nuanced. Where to even begin?

          How about this? Let’s start here:

          I get your anger, and a lot of what you say is true. However, we live in reality where you sometimes have limited options, some being bad, others being worse.

          Let’s see:

          ALL US presidents have done a lot of shit, and in average, the US is not really a force for good in this world.

          However.

          I want to imagine that you understand the concept of bad, worse, worst, right?

          So the US is bad for the world. Saudi Arabia is worse, China and Russia are the worst.

          So Obama, I’d say, was bad. Biden is worse, trump is the worst.

          What I’m (and many with me) advocating is not voting for the best, I’m advocating to vote for the least bad. Right now, it looks like you will end up either with president Biden or president Trump, like it or not. Believe me, not my choices either, but those are the cards we have been dealt.

          So my question to you is: do you prefer Biden, or Trump? Do you believe that Trump will be better for the world, for the US and for you?

          Trump, who famously lies and cheats to get ahead, Trump who famously said he’ll deport protesting students (don’t ask me how, it’s his idea), trump who wants police officers to be harsher and have more authority…

          Because as I understand you, and please correct me if I’m wrong, you want police to be accountable and less authoritative. Trumo will do the opposite, he claims so all the time.

          So with that in mind, do you want trump or Biden? If you want neither, that’s not an option, you’ll get either one of those as your president and that person WILL influence the police.

          So which do you want?

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      What are you even talking about… “the Biden cops”…? You do realize that capitol police don’t take orders from the president?

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        Oh brilliant, in which case his snark about Trump doesn’t make any sense because the cops would be racist on their own terms under either president.

        I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of this guy to snark about police violence against rioters when he’s outright encouraging the crackdown that is infinitely more peaceful.

        Go back to reddit if you really want to live in the pretend world where Biden is a gentle, benevolent dictator just because you’re not bothered about the people his admin is helping repress at home and abroad.